LilyBathory wrote:well it's not like the system here is so much fun. it's insanely restricted (but I just browsed wikipedia to understand the differences, and apparently it was installed after the war, is actually called "the german system" and people say it's the reason why the worldwide recession didn't really hurt germany - huh. who woulda though) and well, you're basically a failure if you don't do the 3-year-apprenticeship or 5-year-university-degree and somehow come out younger than when you went in (oh and add a couple years abroad and 3 foreign languages and 2 years of experience to that) unless you wanna go into media. then you're free to do whatever the fuck you want and just need to be a good liar with fashionable shoes.
however, I think this is officially the first time in forever that I am happy to have come back home after travelling.
ComradeM wrote:Sooo...what do you propose as a solution?
opiiate wrote:TheWorstIdea wrote:The provincial government 'unfroze' tuition in my first year of university...and it basically doubled over the course of my degree. Even working almost full-time and going to school full-time, I still ended up $7000 in debt. It fucking sucked.
voiddj wrote:ComradeM wrote:Sooo...what do you propose as a solution?
Not sure who that question was aimed at, but my answer is a little bit of socialism (at least partially state funded higher education). You've got to see the bigger picture in the benefits derived by society from higher education and not just the individual gain. Also less pressure on people to see University as their only route to a job.
Anyhoo this is way too close to work talk for me and it's Friday night.
Prettygrimm wrote:my bf went to Whittier College (private liberal arts college, Richard Nixon went there lolz) and the overall cost was 35k a SEMESTER!!!!!
he was on full la cross scholarship but left halfway into his last semester to go on tour. now he's this close to his BA at a school he can't afford with units that won't transfer.
TheWorstIdea wrote:Thanks, in part, to the rapid rise in tuition and increase in student debt, we have a system where the government forgives your student loan if you work in "under-served" (i.e. northern) parts of the province for a certain amount of time. But it's fairly specific--nurses, doctors, physical therapists...that sort of thing.
ComradeM wrote:My question was directed at the original poster....the reality is that America is, for some reason, terrfied of anything socialist (yes, I know a lot of programs already in place are fairly socialist, but apparently other people don't). We are capitalist to the extreme and education is a commodity, just like anything else.
I see a lot of bitching, but no suggestions...then someone chimes in with some insight, but it just gets overshadowed by more bitching. I also see people bitching about things that were, AGAIN, changed by the recent student loan reform legislation. You won't be "paying for the rest of your life" because there's forgiveness if you stay on track with repayment, interest IS capped, and payments are not allowed to exceed 10% of your income...soooo...you CAN get your payments reduced, which seemed to be the original complaint...I don't know. Like, yeah, paying for school sucks, but it doesn't have to ruin your life or discourage you from seeking an education. You have rights, learn them.
Also, there's TONS of free money out there, you just have to look for it, and I'm not talking about just filling out your FAFSA and signing up for a fastweb account...government grants, private scholarship funds, unclaimed financial aid...it's stuff you have to spend time looking for, applying for, and fighting for, but it's there.
I guess maybe I just don't understand the point of this thread? To make us aware that school is hella expensive?
jessiegrrrl wrote:Also .. It's not the university, loan company, financial aid advisor, government, or anyone else's (the blame list goes on) fault that you can't find a job in your field after you get a degree... Because you still took a bunch of money from someone to use for something and you are ultimately responsible for holding up your end of the deal.
jessiegrrrl wrote:There is still the issue of YOUR involvement in it. You knowingly chose to take out that money, it is not meant to be free money, and therefore it is your responsibility to pay it back.
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